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--- home:openami [2025/10/29 14:12] – akashborde
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-==== October 29th, 2025: ====
+===== 29 Oct 2025 =====
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>1) [5 minutes] Logistics: Akash, (+Adam, Rajan, if available).</font>
+)</font>
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>Wiki Link:</font>  [[https://wiki.smartvillage.ieee.org/home:openami|https://wiki.smartvillage.ieee.org/home:openami]] <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>New Meeting Invite (please cancel all other OpenAMI invites)</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>[5 minutes] Logistics: Akash, (+Adam, Rajan, if available).</font>
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>Proposed to move meeting 30 minutes later - no objections from people on call</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>Proposed to move meeting 30 minutes later - no objections from people on call</font>
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>2) [15 minutes] Current Problem Statement: Akash, Jude, Rahul</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#6796e6;;inherit>2)</font>
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>Summarizing the problem as we understand it and having the team review it. Documenting this as the top item on the wiki. Short-term problems, long-term problems, and major pain points.</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>[15 minutes] Current Problem Statement: Akash, Jude, Rahul</font>
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>Jude proposal: (link):</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>Summarizing the problem as we understand it and having the team review it. Documenting this as the top item on the wiki. Short-term problems, long-term problems, and major pain points.</font>
- <font 10.5pt/-webkit-standard;;black;;inherit>Solution</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>Jude proposal: (link):</font>
- <font 10.5pt/-webkit-standard;;black;;inherit>The proposed solution is to establish an OpenAMI Association</font>   , a multi-stakeholder initiative that will develop, test, and promote a universal communications and interoperability standard for smart metering systems in Africa.
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>Solution</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>The proposed solution is to establish an OpenAMI Association, a multi-stakeholder initiative that will develop, test, and promote a universal communications and interoperability standard for smart metering systems in Africa.</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>- Should allow remote monitoring</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>- Should allow controls (remote start/stop)</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>Rahul:</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>- HES is customized from the OEM by utilities, it's not proprietary</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>○ EU has strict guidelines on open and proprietary</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>- Size of group is too small, need backing from large institutions (e.g. World Bank)</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>○ Jude: Disagree - this is a very large problem. STS was created for the same reason</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>○ We can promote this standard to the OEMs. AMDA and World Bank are coming to us</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>○ StemaCo - willing to give us keys (showed interest)</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>- Plan for getting OEMs to participate</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>○ Drive demand - if the meters don't have OpenAMI certification, the minigrids won't buy</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>○ Use AMDA and WorldBank for leverage</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>- Rahul: Getting keys shouldn't be hard - manufacturers have not said no yet</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>○ Concerned about getting large enough to drive adoption. STS was created by large multinationals</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>- Create a reference that the minigrid developers adopt</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>- Don:</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>○ Could we reach out to OEM's about Jude's idea and get feedback about this concept? Or are we saying if we create something that is certified by World Bank and AMDA they will be forced to accept our certified standard?</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#6796e6;;inherit>3)</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>[10 minutes] Update on vendor relations: Rahul, Rajan, Jude, Michel</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#6796e6;;inherit>-</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>Any updates from Donsun, Sparkmeter, EarthSpark</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>Leeks has started saying that Donsun is still active (inaccurate)</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>Donsun has split into two - China and Rest-of-Worl</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#6796e6;;inherit>-</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>Asks from StemacoVP, who presented at Thursday ISV Bi-Weekly call</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>Willing to help out</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>ISV has a commercial relationship with them already.</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>StemaCo is moving away from Donsun</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>Any progress opening up DLMS Cosem yet?</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>Glenn to follow up with this person - Warren Scott White → will contact Sam (tech lead) at Stemaco</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#6796e6;;inherit>-</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>How is AMDA doing? Are they tracking this project?</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#6796e6;;inherit>-</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>Inhemeter: Inhemeter has requested some documents, NDA, MoU to continue working with them. Do we want to continue this at this time? Michel started drafting docs if so.</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#6796e6;;inherit>-</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>Not a no, but we need a better strategy</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#6796e6;;inherit>-</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>OEMs don't want to work with our group b/c we are too small</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#6796e6;;inherit>-</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>Work through GVE?</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>○ They are also very small and use legacy meters only</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#6796e6;;inherit>-</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>Challenge is if we use INHE-5000 now, Inhemeter will not support the next version</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>Glenn:</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>- Would be great if we can create a DCU that supports DLMS Cosem and non-DLMS protocols that is compatible with edge meters</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>- Getting backing from Stemaco for OpenAMI would be great</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>- Can we get ISV to support the creation of OpenAMI consortium?</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#6796e6;;inherit>4)</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>[15 minutes] Engineering development: Rahul, Glenn, Akash, Jude, Adam</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>People with source code - Adam, Vivien, Rahul, Glenn - can you walk us through what's been read, what's pending, etc?</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>Akash - no updates on MeshEMS still :(. Would it be useful for Cameroon lab? Energy IoT open source has requested it for January.</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>Is there funding for hardware manufacturing?</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>Jude - OpenAMI and other standards. Do we want to get into STS and try to replicate it for Metering/Vending?</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#6796e6;;inherit>5)</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>[10 minutes] All: Assignments for next week / planning ahead</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>Glenn - talk to the contact at StemaCo (Sam) → will discuss opening up DLMS protocol</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>Don - we need to update our document for OpenAMI</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>Continue discussion on "ISV AMI Subcomittee" whatsapp group</font>
+ <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>Glenn may come to Cameroon early January</font>
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- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Should allow remote monitoring</font>
-  *
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Should allow controls (remote start/stop)</font>
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>Rahul:</font>
-  *
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>HES is customized from the OEM by utilities, it's not proprietary</font>
-  *
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>EU has strict guidelines on open and proprietary</font>
-  *
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Size of group is too small, need backing from large institutions (e.g. World Bank)</font>  *
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Jude: Disagree - this is a very large problem. STS was created for the same reason</font>
-  *
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>We can promote this standard to the OEMs. AMDA and World Bank are coming to us</font>
-  *
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>StemaCo - willing to give us keys (showed interest)</font>
-  *
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Plan for getting OEMs to participate</font>
-  *
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Drive demand - if the meters don't have OpenAMI certification, the minigrids won't buy</font>
-  *
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Use AMDA and WorldBank for leverage</font>
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Rahul: Getting keys shouldn't be hard - manufacturers have not said no yet</font>  *
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Concerned about getting large enough to drive adoption. STS was created by large multinationals</font>
-  *
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Create a reference that the minigrid developers adopt</font>
-  *
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Don:</font>  *
- <font 11.0pt/Calibri;;black;;inherit>Could we reach out to OEM's about Jude's idea and get feedback about this concept? Or are we saying if we create something that is certified by World Bank and AMDA they will be forced to accept our certified standard?</font>
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>3) [10 minutes] Update on vendor relations: Rahul, Rajan, Jude, Michel</font>
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>- Any updates from Donsun, Sparkmeter, EarthSpark</font>
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>Leeks has started saying that Donsun is still active (inaccurate)</font>
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>Donsun has split into two - China and Rest-of-Worl</font>
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>- Asks from StemacoVP, who presented at Thursday ISV Bi-Weekly call</font>
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>Willing to help out</font>
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>ISV has a commercial relationship with them already.</font>
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>StemaCo is moving away from Donsun</font>
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>Any progress opening up DLMS Cosem yet?</font>
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>Glenn to follow up with this person - Warren Scott White → will contact Sam (tech lead) at Stemaco</font>
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>- How is AMDA doing? Are they tracking this project?</font>
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>- Inhemeter: Inhemeter has requested some documents, NDA, MoU to continue working with them. Do we want to continue this at this time? Michel started drafting docs if so.</font>
-  *
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Not a no, but we need a better strategy</font>
-  *
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>OEMs don't want to work with our group b/c we are too small</font>
-  *
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Work through GVE?</font>  *
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>They are also very small and use legacy meters only</font>
-  *
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Challenge is if we use INHE-5000 now, Inhemeter will not support the next version</font>
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>Glenn:</font>
-  *
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Would be great if we can create a DCU that supports DLMS Cosem and non-DLMS protocols that is compatible with edge meters</font>
-  *
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Getting backing from Stemaco for OpenAMI would be great</font>
-  *
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Can we get ISV to support the creation of OpenAMI consortium?</font>
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>4) [15 minutes] Engineering development: Rahul, Glenn, Akash, Jude, Adam</font>
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>People with source code - Adam, Vivien, Rahul, Glenn - can you walk us through what's been read, what's pending, etc?</font>
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>Akash - no updates on MeshEMS still :(. Would it be useful for Cameroon lab? Energy IoT open source has requested it for January.</font>
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>Is there funding for hardware manufacturing?</font>
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>Jude - OpenAMI and other standards. Do we want to get into STS and try to replicate it for Metering/Vending?</font>
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>5) [10 minutes] All: Assignments for next week / planning ahead</font>
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>Glenn - talk to the contact at StemaCo (Sam) → will discuss opening up DLMS protocol</font>
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>Don - we need to update our document for OpenAMI</font>
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>Continue discussion on "ISV AMI Subcomittee" whatsapp group</font>
- <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>Glenn may come to Cameroon early January</font>
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 ==== October 22nd, 2025: ====