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| ===== Background: ===== | ===== Background: ===== | ||
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| ===== Ongoing: ===== | ===== Ongoing: ===== | ||
| - | * There is a weekly meeting actively discussing and shaping this project. This takes places from 6-7am US Pacific Time. | + | * There is a weekly meeting actively discussing and shaping this project. This takes places from 630-730am US Pacific Time on Wednesdays. |
| * Contact Product Manager for more details: Akash Borde at borde.akash[at]gmail.com | * Contact Product Manager for more details: Akash Borde at borde.akash[at]gmail.com | ||
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| ==== October 22nd, 2025: ==== | ==== October 22nd, 2025: ==== | ||
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| * Ask Rajan if he wants the weekly emails | * Ask Rajan if he wants the weekly emails | ||
| - | 1) Any updates from the crowd | + | 1) Any updates from the crowd – Donsun, Sparkmeter, EarthSpark current state Rahul + Daniel - SparkMeter has been " |
| - | – Donsun, Sparkmeter, EarthSpark current state | + | |
| - | Rahul + Daniel - SparkMeter has been " | + | |
| - | Allison is the president of EarthSpark. She makes the call if/when SparkMeter becomes Open-Sourced. Vivien is the guy leading the open-source effort. | + | |
| - | Sparkmeter' | + | |
| - | Sparkmeter wraps the cailin' | + | |
| - | Worldbank M300 → project from World Bank for electricity reach 300Mill new people in africa | + | |
| Things we need | Things we need | ||
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| * How we're doing vending | * How we're doing vending | ||
| * Correct timestamps | * Correct timestamps | ||
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| Proposed solution: take the telemetry from the field, add an additional service (?) and have access to the data via the server infrastructure | Proposed solution: take the telemetry from the field, add an additional service (?) and have access to the data via the server infrastructure | ||
| - | 4 organizational members: | + | 4 organizational members: IEEE, EnAccess, NESL, Arila |
| - | IEEE, EnAccess, NESL, Arila | + | |
| Rahul proposal: | Rahul proposal: | ||
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| * Daniel in convinced that telemetry should not go to MicoPowerManager (MPM) directly. We need middleware like Grid Fabric' | * Daniel in convinced that telemetry should not go to MicoPowerManager (MPM) directly. We need middleware like Grid Fabric' | ||
| * Open AMI server, standardize schema (glenn has started this), called Grid Fabric. Linux foundation project. Not the Hyphae project. | * Open AMI server, standardize schema (glenn has started this), called Grid Fabric. Linux foundation project. Not the Hyphae project. | ||
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| * If we go through StemaCo | * If we go through StemaCo | ||
| - | – EnAccess - any updates/ | + | – EnAccess - any updates/ |
| - | – Sparkmeter source code access? | + | |
| - | — Rahul/ | + | |
| - | – Akash-plan/ | + | |
| - | Rahul has access to code base, but it's "a mess" | + | |
| Jude: | Jude: | ||
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| * We thought we had commitments to get keys to access hardware. | * We thought we had commitments to get keys to access hardware. | ||
| * Inhemeter is now asking for a contract | * Inhemeter is now asking for a contract | ||
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| * As of today, we have no keys to any hardware. Only open hardware is our own board. | * As of today, we have no keys to any hardware. Only open hardware is our own board. | ||
| - | 2) Clarification of problem statements, both short-term and long-term. | + | 2) Clarification of problem statements, both short-term and long-term. – Short term will include exit of major metering vendors – Long term will include discussion of software and hardware solutions – We can use the Cairo OpenAMI slide deck ([[https:// |
| - | – Short term will include exit of major metering vendors | + | |
| - | – Long term will include discussion of software and hardware solutions | + | |
| - | – We can use the Cairo OpenAMI slide deck ([[https:// | + | |
| * Don - are we trying to hack existing systems or use the OpenAMI as our own standard? | * Don - are we trying to hack existing systems or use the OpenAMI as our own standard? | ||
| * Last meeting, we found all the OEMs are having the same vulnerability. Don't want to support legacy products of theirs. | * Last meeting, we found all the OEMs are having the same vulnerability. Don't want to support legacy products of theirs. | ||
| - | Question: Should we have this be a software-only solution? | + | Question: Should we have this be a software-only solution? |
| - | – Jude, Akash | + | |
| + | 3) Hardware discussion | ||
| - | 3) Hardware discussion | ||
| - | – Utility and desires for the MeshEMS gateway | ||
| - | – Arila, Jude, Glenn, Akash, Rahul | ||
| - | – What if we made our own hardware? | ||
| * 2 major players have already failed | * 2 major players have already failed | ||
| * Rajan is skeptical | * Rajan is skeptical | ||
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| * Similar to an STS certification, | * Similar to an STS certification, | ||
| - | OpenPay Go and STS - similar | + | OpenPay Go and STS - similar For talking to the edge meter (supports STS, version 2) |
| - | For talking to the edge meter (supports STS, version 2) | + | |
| * You'd need a key that talks to the STS | * You'd need a key that talks to the STS | ||
| - | 4) Blockers / goals for setting up Yaounde lab with Glenn' | + | 4) Blockers / goals for setting up Yaounde lab with Glenn' |
| - | – Glenn, Jude, Endurance | + | |
| + | 5) ISV Funding and Project Plan Revisions – Don, Rajan, Jude | ||
| - | 5) ISV Funding and Project Plan Revisions | ||
| - | – Don, Rajan, Jude | ||
| * Adam- how can we live stream any existing data from villages? | * Adam- how can we live stream any existing data from villages? | ||
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| 0) Recap of Oct 8th meeting for folks traveling back from Power Africa (Arila or Daniel)? (5-10 mins) | 0) Recap of Oct 8th meeting for folks traveling back from Power Africa (Arila or Daniel)? (5-10 mins) | ||
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| * Nothing major to discuss | * Nothing major to discuss | ||
| - | 1) Akash/Jude: Power Africa Recap (5-10 mins) | + | 1) Akash/Jude: Power Africa Recap (5-10 mins) a. Presentation recap |
| - | a. Presentation recap | + | |
| * Discussed with minigrid developers | * Discussed with minigrid developers | ||
| * Sun Moksha - Indian minigrid company that is building smart metering. 3 priorities | * Sun Moksha - Indian minigrid company that is building smart metering. 3 priorities | ||
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| b. Discussion recap / feedback session | b. Discussion recap / feedback session | ||
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| * Jude: This looks like another locked solution, we would have the risk of being stuck on them | * Jude: This looks like another locked solution, we would have the risk of being stuck on them | ||
| * Arila: Is there any openness from the open-source perspective from SunMoksha? | * Arila: Is there any openness from the open-source perspective from SunMoksha? | ||
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| c. Akash - will try to make a slide on this | c. Akash - will try to make a slide on this | ||
| - | 2) Jude: Client/ | + | 2) Jude: Client/ |
| - | a. Jude's thoughts on the current status of the project | + | |
| - | b. Include pivots of the direction he would like to take this | + | |
| - | 3) Inhemeter call - Jude/ | + | 3) Inhemeter call - Jude/ |
| - | a. Recap of call with Sanji from inhemeter | + | |
| - | They want a signed document before providing documentation | + | |
| - | Awaiting on the confidential agreement from Inhemeter <→ Michel F is working on this | + | |
| - | b. " | + | |
| - | Latest model available is the Inhemeter-5000 | + | |
| - | c. " | + | |
| - | Donsun - sales person is no longer at Donsun | + | |
| - | Donsun is now bankrupt (!) | + | |
| - | Purchased sample meters through StemaCo | + | |
| - | Rahul - Sparkmeter | + | Rahul - Sparkmeter Sparkmeter has custom radios, not modbus 485 Need to be on their custom neighborhood network Rahul has access to the codebase and developers → can share answers to the queries Dominant architecture in Africa Radios are working on a certain set of frequencies, |
| - | Sparkmeter has custom radios, not modbus 485 | + | |
| - | Need to be on their custom neighborhood network | + | |
| - | Rahul has access to the codebase and developers → can share answers to the queries | + | |
| - | Dominant architecture in Africa | + | |
| - | Radios are working on a certain set of frequencies, | + | |
| - | Seems very hard to jailbreak existing sparkmeters based on this | + | |
| - | Recommends avoid committing to jailbreaking this | + | |
| - | Maybe easier to do if we are already in contact/ | + | |
| - | Arila: | + | Arila: Was under the impression that there is Modbus Donsun Splitting into 2 One for Africa One for rest of world? Could expect code stubs for AMI potentially Rahul → older conversations |
| - | Was under the impression that there is Modbus | + | |
| - | Donsun | + | |
| - | Splitting into 2 | + | |
| - | One for Africa | + | |
| - | One for rest of world? | + | |
| - | Could expect code stubs for AMI potentially | + | |
| - | Rahul → older conversations | + | |
| - | 4) Formal roles within volunteer team - Jude | + | 4) Formal roles within volunteer team - Jude a. Product Manager b. Project Manager c. Administrators d. Other roles? |
| - | a. Product Manager | + | |
| - | b. Project Manager | + | |
| - | c. Administrators | + | |
| - | d. Other roles? | + | |
| 5) Auditing/ | 5) Auditing/ | ||
| - | 6) Techincal debug and setup of REI-Cameroon Lab - Glenn/ | + | 6) Techincal debug and setup of REI-Cameroon Lab - Glenn/ |
| - | a. Summarizing status of remote access | + | |
| - | b. Setup of new hardware / VPN from Glenn | + | |
| Looking forward: | Looking forward: | ||
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| * So many meter vendors going bankrupt or not helpful | * So many meter vendors going bankrupt or not helpful | ||
| * How do we salvage existing meters/ | * How do we salvage existing meters/ | ||
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| Sparkmeter | Sparkmeter | ||
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| * Allison is the person we need to convince | * Allison is the person we need to convince | ||
| * Rajan has talked, Vivien has talked to them, Jude has also talked to them, AMDA has also talked to them | * Rajan has talked, Vivien has talked to them, Jude has also talked to them, AMDA has also talked to them | ||
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| What do we as OpenAMI focus on in the next 3-6 months? | What do we as OpenAMI focus on in the next 3-6 months? | ||
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| * Rahul: Support on legacy solutions | * Rahul: Support on legacy solutions | ||
| * Jude: Re-formulate the implementation plan | * Jude: Re-formulate the implementation plan | ||
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| * Endurance hasn't been able | * Endurance hasn't been able | ||
| - | Follow-ups | + | Follow-ups - Rahul weekly meeting? |
| - | - Rahul weekly meeting? | + | |
| * Stemaco and Donsun relationship? | * Stemaco and Donsun relationship? | ||
| * Vivian hardware access? | * Vivian hardware access? | ||
| * Sparkmeter source code access? | * Sparkmeter source code access? | ||
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| rwglead.Name | rwglead.Name | ||