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| ==== Open-Source Advanced-Metering-Infrastructure to enable minigrids for electricity access. ==== | ==== Open-Source Advanced-Metering-Infrastructure to enable minigrids for electricity access. ==== |
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| Note: This page is actively under construction and will be updated frequently. Last update: Akash Borde, 28 October 2025 | ''Note: This page is actively under construction and will be updated frequently. Last update: Akash Borde, 28 October 2025'' |
| ===== Background: ===== | ===== Background: ===== |
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| * Power Africa Conference Presentation | * [[https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1b1Bl63I-evfd20MW6XxDe0IIse-0Nm85/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=112191662511889552544&rtpof=true&sd=true|Power Africa Conference Presentation]] |
| * Linux Foundation Conference Presentation | * [[https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1b1Bl63I-evfd20MW6XxDe0IIse-0Nm85/edit#slide=id.g28b247f5353_0_91|Linux Foundation Conference Presentation]] |
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| ===== Ongoing: ===== | ===== Ongoing: ===== |
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| * There is a weekly meeting actively discussing and shaping this project. This takes places from 6-7am US Pacific Time. | * There is a weekly meeting actively discussing and shaping this project. This takes places from 630-730am US Pacific Time on Wednesdays. |
| * Contact Product Manager for more details: Akash Borde at borde.akash[at]gmail.com | * Contact Product Manager for more details: Akash Borde at borde.akash[at]gmail.com |
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| ===== Weekly Meeting Notes: ===== | ===== Weekly Meeting Notes: ===== |
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| ==== October 22nd, 2025: ==== | ''(I am struggling to figure out why the formatting breaks so badly, will work on figuring this format out… -Akash)'' |
| <font 11.0pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Follow-ups \\ | |
| - Rahul weekly meeting?</font> | |
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| <font 11.0pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Stemaco and Donsun relationship?</font> | |
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| <font 11.0pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Vivian hardware access?</font> | |
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| <font 11.0pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Sparkmeter source code access?</font> | |
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| - | ===== 29 Oct 2025 ===== |
| <font 11.0pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Logistics</font> - | 1)</font> |
| <font 11.0pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Akash will make a new email series, including Jude. Agendas will be sent 24 hrs in advance over email.</font> | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>[5 minutes] Logistics: Akash, (+Adam, Rajan, if available).</font> |
| - | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>Proposed to move meeting 30 minutes later - no objections from people on call</font> |
| <font 11.0pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Whatsapp:</font> - | <font inherit/inherit;;#6796e6;;inherit>2)</font> |
| <font 11.0pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>OpenAMI Coms Integration -> Inhemeter</font> | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>[15 minutes] Current Problem Statement: Akash, Jude, Rahul</font> |
| - | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>Summarizing the problem as we understand it and having the team review it. Documenting this as the top item on the wiki. Short-term problems, long-term problems, and major pain points.</font> |
| <font 11.0pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Tech Comm and OpenAMI -> used for presentations</font> | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>Jude proposal: (link):</font> |
| - | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>Solution</font> |
| <font 11.0pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>ISV AMI Subcommittee</font> | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>The proposed solution is to establish an OpenAMI Association, a multi-stakeholder initiative that will develop, test, and promote a universal communications and interoperability standard for smart metering systems in Africa.</font> |
| - | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>- Should allow remote monitoring</font> |
| <font 11.0pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Arila is not on Whatsapp</font> | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>- Should allow controls (remote start/stop)</font> |
| - | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>Rahul:</font> |
| <font 11.0pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Ask Rajan if he wants the weekly emails</font> | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>- HES is customized from the OEM by utilities, it's not proprietary</font> |
| <font 11.0pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit></font> | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>○ EU has strict guidelines on open and proprietary</font> |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>1) Any updates from the crowd</font> | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>- Size of group is too small, need backing from large institutions (e.g. World Bank)</font> |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>-- Donsun, Sparkmeter, EarthSpark current state</font> | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>○ Jude: Disagree - this is a very large problem. STS was created for the same reason</font> |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit></font> | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>○ We can promote this standard to the OEMs. AMDA and World Bank are coming to us</font> |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>Rahul + Daniel - SparkMeter has been "handed over" to EarthSpark after SparkMeter collapsed.</font> | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>○ StemaCo - willing to give us keys (showed interest)</font> |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>Allison is the president of EarthSpark. She makes the call if/when SparkMeter becomes Open-Sourced. Vivien is the guy leading the open-source effort.</font> | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>- Plan for getting OEMs to participate</font> |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>Sparkmeter's operating costs are artificially very high.</font> | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>○ Drive demand - if the meters don't have OpenAMI certification, the minigrids won't buy</font> |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>Sparkmeter wraps the cailin's hardware in their own protocol.</font> | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>○ Use AMDA and WorldBank for leverage</font> |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>Worldbank M300 -> project from World Bank for electricity reach 300Mill new people in africa</font> | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>- Rahul: Getting keys shouldn't be hard - manufacturers have not said no yet</font> |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit></font> | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>○ Concerned about getting large enough to drive adoption. STS was created by large multinationals</font> |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>Things we need</font> | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>- Create a reference that the minigrid developers adopt</font> |
| | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>- Don:</font> |
| | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>○ Could we reach out to OEM's about Jude's idea and get feedback about this concept? Or are we saying if we create something that is certified by World Bank and AMDA they will be forced to accept our certified standard?</font> |
| | <font inherit/inherit;;#6796e6;;inherit>3)</font> |
| | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>[10 minutes] Update on vendor relations: Rahul, Rajan, Jude, Michel</font> |
| | <font inherit/inherit;;#6796e6;;inherit>-</font> |
| | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>Any updates from Donsun, Sparkmeter, EarthSpark</font> |
| | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>Leeks has started saying that Donsun is still active (inaccurate)</font> |
| | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>Donsun has split into two - China and Rest-of-Worl</font> |
| | <font inherit/inherit;;#6796e6;;inherit>-</font> |
| | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>Asks from StemacoVP, who presented at Thursday ISV Bi-Weekly call</font> |
| | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>Willing to help out</font> |
| | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>ISV has a commercial relationship with them already.</font> |
| | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>StemaCo is moving away from Donsun</font> |
| | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>Any progress opening up DLMS Cosem yet?</font> |
| | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>Glenn to follow up with this person - Warren Scott White → will contact Sam (tech lead) at Stemaco</font> |
| | <font inherit/inherit;;#6796e6;;inherit>-</font> |
| | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>How is AMDA doing? Are they tracking this project?</font> |
| | <font inherit/inherit;;#6796e6;;inherit>-</font> |
| | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>Inhemeter: Inhemeter has requested some documents, NDA, MoU to continue working with them. Do we want to continue this at this time? Michel started drafting docs if so.</font> |
| | <font inherit/inherit;;#6796e6;;inherit>-</font> |
| | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>Not a no, but we need a better strategy</font> |
| | <font inherit/inherit;;#6796e6;;inherit>-</font> |
| | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>OEMs don't want to work with our group b/c we are too small</font> |
| | <font inherit/inherit;;#6796e6;;inherit>-</font> |
| | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>Work through GVE?</font> |
| | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>○ They are also very small and use legacy meters only</font> |
| | <font inherit/inherit;;#6796e6;;inherit>-</font> |
| | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>Challenge is if we use INHE-5000 now, Inhemeter will not support the next version</font> |
| | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>Glenn:</font> |
| | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>- Would be great if we can create a DCU that supports DLMS Cosem and non-DLMS protocols that is compatible with edge meters</font> |
| | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>- Getting backing from Stemaco for OpenAMI would be great</font> |
| | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>- Can we get ISV to support the creation of OpenAMI consortium?</font> |
| | <font inherit/inherit;;#6796e6;;inherit>4)</font> |
| | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>[15 minutes] Engineering development: Rahul, Glenn, Akash, Jude, Adam</font> |
| | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>People with source code - Adam, Vivien, Rahul, Glenn - can you walk us through what's been read, what's pending, etc?</font> |
| | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>Akash - no updates on MeshEMS still :(. Would it be useful for Cameroon lab? Energy IoT open source has requested it for January.</font> |
| | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>Is there funding for hardware manufacturing?</font> |
| | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>Jude - OpenAMI and other standards. Do we want to get into STS and try to replicate it for Metering/Vending?</font> |
| | <font inherit/inherit;;#6796e6;;inherit>5)</font> |
| | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>[10 minutes] All: Assignments for next week / planning ahead</font> |
| | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>Glenn - talk to the contact at StemaCo (Sam) → will discuss opening up DLMS protocol</font> |
| | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>Don - we need to update our document for OpenAMI</font> |
| | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>Continue discussion on "ISV AMI Subcomittee" whatsapp group</font> |
| | <font inherit/inherit;;#cccccc;;inherit>Glenn may come to Cameroon early January</font> |
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| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>How we're doing vending</font> | |
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| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Correct timestamps</font> | |
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| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Information about the grid</font> | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit></font> | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>Proposed solution: take the telemetry from the field, add an additional service (?) and have access to the data via the server infrastructure</font> | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit></font> | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>4 organizational members:</font> | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>IEEE, EnAccess, NESL, Arila</font> | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit></font> | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>Rahul proposal:</font> | |
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| * | ==== October 22nd, 2025: ==== |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Open AMI server, standardize schema (glenn has started this), called Grid Fabric. Linux foundation project. Not the Hyphae project.</font> * | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>This project takes the logs from the DCU</font> | |
| * | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>MicroPowerManager needs a plugin to ingest this data.</font> | |
| * | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Grid Fabric supports 2 protocols, both can be run on DCU</font> * | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>DLMS -></font> | |
| * | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>MQTT -></font> | |
| * | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Vendors are offering the keys to these protocols, not hacking the solutions</font> * | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Donsun, StemaCo, Inhemeter (not explicitly yet)</font> | |
| * | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Donsun - has offered access to DCU (serial console / Telnet). Busybox linux environment. They have spare CPU cycles we can run other processes in.</font> * | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>The guy who offered the keys is now gone though, and said Donsun is bankrupt</font> | |
| * | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>We weren't talking to Donsun directly though.</font> | |
| * | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>"Leets" from Donsun</font> | |
| * | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Jude has Nigeran Donsun hardware</font> | |
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| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>StemaCo - service provider</font> * | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Donsun is one of 6 chinese OEMs that StemaCo will support</font> | |
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| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>If we go through StemaCo</font> | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit></font> | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit></font> | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit></font> | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>-- EnAccess - any updates/questions/agenda topics?</font> | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>-- Sparkmeter source code access?</font> | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>--- Rahul/Enaccess currently have it</font> | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>-- Akash-plan/idea to hack the SparkMeter from Sun Gate Solar</font> | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit></font> | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>Rahul has access to code base, but it's "a mess"</font> | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit></font> | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>Jude:</font> | |
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| * | Follow-ups |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>We thought we had commitments to get keys to access hardware.</font> * | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Inhemeter is now asking for a contract</font> | |
| * | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Sparkmeter - stuck asking Alison (EarthSpark) trying to get opensource access 1 month later</font> * | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>There may be some Google Drive with limited access to see source</font> | |
| * | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>We Cannot use anything from this drive, legally, without Open-Sourcing it</font> | |
| * | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Rahul - we have pretty good reference of the architecture, but legally we cannot use it till Alison approves.</font> * | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>TAM (AMDA): 1M meters, $20/meter = $20M TAM</font> | |
| * | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Seems unlikely we'll get access for free</font> | |
| * | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Donsun - collapsed mid-conversation</font> | |
| * | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>StemaCo - we will probably hit the same wall</font> | |
| * | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>As of today, we have no keys to any hardware. Only open hardware is our own board.</font> | |
| <font 11.0pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit></font> | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>2) Clarification of problem statements, both short-term and long-term.</font> | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>-- Short term will include exit of major metering vendors</font> | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>-- Long term will include discussion of software and hardware solutions</font> | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>-- We can use the Cairo OpenAMI slide deck (</font> [[https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1b1Bl63I-evfd20MW6XxDe0IIse-0Nm85/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=112191662511889552544&rtpof=true&sd=true|link]] <font inherit/inherit;;#222222;;inherit>) to start the discussion.</font> | |
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| * | * Rahul weekly meeting? Meeting delayed, follow-up email to team sent today. — //[[rahul.bhargava.in@ieee.org|Rahul Bhargava]] 2025/10/28 14:10// |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Don - are we trying to hack existing systems or use the OpenAMI as our own standard?</font> | * Stemaco and Donsun relationship? Donsun is splitting into two, with Synergy serving the global market, particularly African STS compliant hardware and a much more competitive (in terms of entrenchment and margins) Chinese domestic market. It is believed that the African market will continue to be served by Leets+Synergy. — //[[rahul.bhargava.in@ieee.org|Rahul Bhargava]] 2025/10/28 14:12// |
| | * Vivian hardware access? |
| | * Sparkmeter source code access? |
| | * EnAccess made introductions and the Emerging Markets codebase on gitlab is accessible to Glenn and Rahul, aside from EnAccess. Though, while there is no clarity on licensing and ownership, it is generally unadvisable to use the code. — //[[rahul.bhargava.in@ieee.org|Rahul Bhargava]] 2025/10/28 14:14// |
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| * | Logistics - Akash will make a new email series, including Jude. Agendas will be sent 24 hrs in advance over email. |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Last meeting, we found all the OEMs are having the same vulnerability. Don't want to support legacy products of theirs.</font> | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>Question: Should we have this be a software-only solution?</font> | |
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| * | * Whatsapp: - OpenAMI Coms Integration → Inhemeter |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>-- Jude, Akash</font> | * Pending with Inhe who are expected to furnish REIc with a NDA and contract before sharing any doucmentation, let alone code stubs for querying meters from the DCU (only 5000 series, no legacy support). Meanwhile, SteamaCo is committing to provide legacy support including code. — //[[rahul.bhargava.in@ieee.org|Rahul Bhargava]] 2025/10/28 14:15// |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit></font> | * Tech Comm and OpenAMI → used for presentations |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>3) Hardware discussion</font> | * ISV AMI Subcommittee |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>-- Utility and desires for the MeshEMS gateway</font> | * Arila is not on Whatsapp |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>-- Arila, Jude, Glenn, Akash, Rahul</font> | * Ask Rajan if he wants the weekly emails |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>-- What if we made our own hardware?</font> | |
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| * | 1) Any updates from the crowd – Donsun, Sparkmeter, EarthSpark current state Rahul + Daniel - SparkMeter has been "handed over" to EarthSpark after SparkMeter collapsed. Allison is the president of EarthSpark. She makes the call if/when SparkMeter becomes Open-Sourced. Vivien is the guy leading the open-source effort. Sparkmeter's operating costs are artificially very high. Sparkmeter wraps the cailin's hardware in their own protocol (SparkMeter replace the radios with their own and run custom firmware without STS; so legacy meters cannot be orchestrated by new DCUs and no one can participate on their private neighbourhood networks without matching radios and protocols). — //[[rahul.bhargava.in@ieee.org|Rahul Bhargava]] 2025/10/28 14:17// Worldbank M300 → project from World Bank for electricity reach 300Mill new people in africa |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>2 major players have already failed</font> | |
| * | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Rajan is skeptical</font> | |
| * | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Vivian - thumbs up. Not for the meters, but maybe for the DCU.</font> | |
| * | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Jude - yes let's talk about this</font> * | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Lots of donor money available</font> | |
| * | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Roadblocks - local developers/infrastructure</font> | |
| * | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Stemaco, Sparkmeter -> were all whitelabeling a few OEMs. Did not make their own hardware (both metering and DCU).</font> | |
| * | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Sparkmeter - was whitelabeling their own meters, but making their own DCUs.</font> | |
| * | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Jude's idea:</font> * | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>AMDA developers have 3 priorities:</font> * | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Vending</font> | |
| * | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Monitoring ability</font> | |
| * | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Ability to do operations (on/off control)</font> | |
| * | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Vending:</font> * | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Solved by STS/OpenPay Go</font> | |
| * | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>So long as you have the CIU (customer intefface) at the meter level, and the token generation software, you can vend irrespective of the (?)</font> | |
| * | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Monitoring and Operations</font> * | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>This is not yet solved. What if we take this as a standard?</font> | |
| * | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Like STS, we build a comms standard that can be deployed by the OEMs for people that want to go beyond vending.</font> | |
| * | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Maybe this requires an open-source DCU to go with it</font> | |
| * | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Building software that can go on DCUs that lets the data seen in multiple places</font> | |
| * | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Similar to an STS certification, this could be a selling point for new developers to use OEMS that are "OpenAMI" compliant</font> | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit></font> | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>OpenPay Go and STS - similar</font> | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>For talking to the edge meter (supports STS, version 2)</font> | |
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| * | Things we need |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>You'd need a key that talks to the STS</font> | |
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| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>4) Blockers / goals for setting up Yaounde lab with Glenn's VPN hardware</font> | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>-- Glenn, Jude, Endurance</font> | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit></font> | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>5) ISV Funding and Project Plan Revisions</font> | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit>-- Don, Rajan, Jude</font> | |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;#222222;;inherit></font> | |
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| - | * How we're doing vending |
| <font 11.0pt/Arial;;inherit;;inherit>Adam- how can we live stream any existing data from villages?</font> | * Correct timestamps |
| | * Information about the grid |
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| === October 15th, 2025: === | Proposed solution: take the telemetry from the field, add an additional service (?) and have access to the data via the server infrastructure |
| <font inherit/Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;;rgb(80, 0, 80) font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;;;inherit>0) Recap of Oct 8th meeting for folks traveling back from Power Africa (Arila or Daniel)? (5-10 mins)</font> | |
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| * | 4 organizational members: IEEE, EnAccess, NESL, Arila |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Nothing major to discuss</font> | |
| <font inherit/Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;;rgb(80, 0, 80) font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;;;inherit>1) Akash/Jude: Power Africa Recap (5-10 mins)</font> | |
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| * | Rahul proposal: |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Discussed with minigrid developers</font> | |
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| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Sun Moksha - Indian minigrid company that is building smart metering. 3 priorities</font> * | |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Vending - ability to make sales</font> * | |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Manage the energy / assets</font> * | |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Monitoring - what sparkmeter can provide</font> * | |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Sun Moksha agrees on scarcity of metering suppliers / availability</font> * | |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>They have a prototype working on this that has solved their problem</font> * | |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Make their own controller that talks between the meters (modbus) and server (wifi mesh), which then talks to the cloud</font> * | |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>They are open to share IP with the IEEE community; they've invested a lot of $ and don't have too much incentive to provide</font> | |
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| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Not open-sourcing, but some sort of license that gives other vendors</font> | |
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| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>They built their own proprietary hardware (with ESP32 equivalent) that they could sell</font> | |
| <font inherit/Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;;rgb(80, 0, 80) font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;;;inherit>b. Discussion recap / feedback session</font> | |
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| * | * Daniel in convinced that telemetry should not go to MicoPowerManager (MPM) directly. We need middleware like Grid Fabric's backend (GFX) from Linux Foundation. The Frontend will still be MPM conceptually with a plugin that fetches required data more at a meter-level and associate billing and customer data in MPM. Meanwhile, grid-scale telemetry (distribution by phase of three-phase distribution from inverters) data can be analyzed by custom front-ends to a stable and mature Grid Fabric backend (that is heavy and requires servers and will not fit on DCUs). — //[[rahul.bhargava.in@ieee.org|Rahul Bhargava]] 2025/10/28 14:20// |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Jude: This looks like another locked solution, we would have the risk of being stuck on them</font> * | * Open AMI server, standardize schema (glenn has started this), called Grid Fabric. Linux foundation project. Not the Hyphae project. |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Arila: Is there any openness from the open-source perspective from SunMoksha?</font> * | * This project takes the logs from the DCU |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Jude: This was developed for India, they had a sponsored project from India. Was a larger for minigrid developers in India previously, but currently isn't such a big market</font> * | * Glenn has defined a XML schema that is tuples, timestamp and readings for each meter. This can be optimized and adopted if compliant with IEEE 2030.5 — //[[rahul.bhargava.in@ieee.org|Rahul Bhargava]] 2025/10/28 14:21// |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Arila: Is there an open solution available on the cloud side?</font> * | * MicroPowerManager needs a plugin to ingest this data. |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Akash:</font> * | * There is an ingestion plugin by the Linux Foundation but we may need middleware to log the telemtery and then pull aggregations to MPM — //[[rahul.bhargava.in@ieee.org|Rahul Bhargava]] 2025/10/28 14:22// |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Mou Riiny - interested in OpenAMI, frustrated with Sparkmeter</font> * | * Grid Fabric supports 2 protocols, both can be run on DCU |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Shared a sparkmeter to debug (malfunctional)</font> * | * DLMS → |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Sparkmeter</font> * | * MQTT → |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Vivien/Jude might have access to their repos</font> * | * Vendors are offering the keys to these protocols, not hacking the solutions |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>What's the goal with this one?</font> * | * Donsun, StemaCo, Inhemeter (not explicitly yet) |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Just a test bed for now</font> * | * This is on the table with support from SteamaCo — //[[rahul.bhargava.in@ieee.org|Rahul Bhargava]] 2025/10/28 14:23// |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Akash to share</font> * | * Donsun - has offered access to DCU (serial console / Telnet). Busybox linux environment. They have spare CPU cycles we can run other processes in. |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Jude may have functional sparkmeters</font> * | * The guy who offered the keys is now gone though, and said Donsun is bankrupt |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Nova / Edge Meter</font> * | * Leets is not gone and Donsun's successor is not bankrupt, as per Warren of SteamaCo. HES support expected from SteamaCo — //[[rahul.bhargava.in@ieee.org|Rahul Bhargava]] 2025/10/28 14:23// |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Has some spares</font> | * We weren't talking to Donsun directly though. |
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| <font inherit/Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;;rgb(80, 0, 80) font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;;;inherit>c. Akash - will try to make a slide on this</font> | * "Leets" from Donsun |
| <font inherit/Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;;rgb(80, 0, 80) font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;;;inherit>2) Jude: Client/customer's wishlist (5-10 mins)</font> | * Jude has Nigeran Donsun hardware |
| <font inherit/Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;;rgb(80, 0, 80) font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;;;inherit>a. Jude's thoughts on the current status of the project</font> | * StemaCo - service provider |
| <font inherit/Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;;rgb(80, 0, 80) font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;;;inherit>b. Include pivots of the direction he would like to take this</font> | * Donsun is one of 6 chinese OEMs that StemaCo will support |
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| <font inherit/Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;;rgb(80, 0, 80) font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;;;inherit>3) Inhemeter call - Jude/Michel/Akash (5 mins)</font> | |
| <font inherit/Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;;rgb(80, 0, 80) font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;;;inherit>a. Recap of call with Sanji from inhemeter</font> | |
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| They want a signed document before providing documentation | – EnAccess - any updates/questions/agenda topics? – Sparkmeter source code access? — Rahul/Enaccess currently have it – Akash-plan/idea to hack the SparkMeter from Sun Gate Solar Rahul has access to code base, but it's "a mess" |
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| Awaiting on the confidential agreement from Inhemeter <-> Michel F is working on this | Jude: |
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| <font inherit/Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;;rgb(80, 0, 80) font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;;;inherit>b. "Cannot support the Inhe-4000 you got from nigeria"</font> | |
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| Latest model available is the Inhemeter-5000 | * We thought we had commitments to get keys to access hardware. |
| <font inherit/Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;;rgb(80, 0, 80) font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;;;inherit></font> | * Inhemeter is now asking for a contract |
| <font inherit/Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;;rgb(80, 0, 80) font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;;;inherit>c. "Please give us your specs for a new order"</font> | * Sparkmeter - stuck asking Alison (EarthSpark) trying to get opensource access 1 month later |
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| | * We Cannot use anything from this drive, legally, without Open-Sourcing it |
| | * Rahul - we have pretty good reference of the architecture, but legally we cannot use it till Alison approves. |
| | * TAM (AMDA): 1M meters, $20/meter = $20M TAM |
| | * Seems unlikely we'll get access for free |
| | * Donsun - collapsed mid-conversation |
| | * StemaCo - we will probably hit the same wall |
| | * As of today, we have no keys to any hardware. Only open hardware is our own board. |
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| Donsun - sales person is no longer at Donsun | 2) Clarification of problem statements, both short-term and long-term. – Short term will include exit of major metering vendors – Long term will include discussion of software and hardware solutions – We can use the Cairo OpenAMI slide deck ([[https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1b1Bl63I-evfd20MW6XxDe0IIse-0Nm85/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=112191662511889552544&rtpof=true&sd=true|link]]) to start the discussion. |
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| Donsun is now bankrupt (!) | * Don - are we trying to hack existing systems or use the OpenAMI as our own standard? |
| | * Last meeting, we found all the OEMs are having the same vulnerability. Don't want to support legacy products of theirs. |
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| Purchased sample meters through StemaCo | Question: Should we have this be a software-only solution? – Jude, Akash |
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| Rahul - Sparkmeter | 3) Hardware discussion – Utility and desires for the MeshEMS gateway – Arila, Jude, Glenn, Akash, Rahul – What if we made our own hardware? |
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| Sparkmeter has custom radios, not modbus 485 | * 2 major players have already failed |
| | * Rajan is skeptical |
| | * Vivian - thumbs up. Not for the meters, but maybe for the DCU. |
| | * Jude - yes let's talk about this |
| | * Lots of donor money available |
| | * Roadblocks - local developers/infrastructure |
| | * Stemaco, Sparkmeter → were all whitelabeling a few OEMs. Did not make their own hardware (both metering and DCU). |
| | * Sparkmeter - was whitelabeling their own meters, but making their own DCUs. |
| | * Jude's idea: |
| | * AMDA developers have 3 priorities: |
| | * Vending |
| | * Monitoring ability |
| | * Ability to do operations (on/off control) |
| | * Vending: |
| | * Solved by STS/OpenPay Go |
| | * So long as you have the CIU (customer intefface) at the meter level, and the token generation software, you can vend irrespective of the (?) |
| | * Monitoring and Operations |
| | * This is not yet solved. What if we take this as a standard? |
| | * Like STS, we build a comms standard that can be deployed by the OEMs for people that want to go beyond vending. |
| | * Maybe this requires an open-source DCU to go with it |
| | * Building software that can go on DCUs that lets the data seen in multiple places |
| | * Similar to an STS certification, this could be a selling point for new developers to use OEMS that are "OpenAMI" compliant |
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| Need to be on their custom neighborhood network | OpenPay Go and STS - similar For talking to the edge meter (supports STS, version 2) |
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| Rahul has access to the codebase and developers -> can share answers to the queries | * You'd need a key that talks to the STS |
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| Dominant architecture in Africa | 4) Blockers / goals for setting up Yaounde lab with Glenn's VPN hardware – Glenn, Jude, Endurance |
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| Radios are working on a certain set of frequencies, these are pretty locked | 5) ISV Funding and Project Plan Revisions – Don, Rajan, Jude |
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| Seems very hard to jailbreak existing sparkmeters based on this | * Adam- how can we live stream any existing data from villages? |
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| Recommends avoid committing to jailbreaking this | === October 15th, 2025: === |
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| Maybe easier to do if we are already in contact/customers with them | 0) Recap of Oct 8th meeting for folks traveling back from Power Africa (Arila or Daniel)? (5-10 mins) |
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| Arila: | * Nothing major to discuss |
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| Was under the impression that there is Modbus | 1) Akash/Jude: Power Africa Recap (5-10 mins) a. Presentation recap |
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| Donsun | * Discussed with minigrid developers |
| | * Sun Moksha - Indian minigrid company that is building smart metering. 3 priorities |
| | * Vending - ability to make sales |
| | * Manage the energy / assets |
| | * Monitoring - what sparkmeter can provide |
| | * Sun Moksha agrees on scarcity of metering suppliers / availability |
| | * They have a prototype working on this that has solved their problem |
| | * Make their own controller that talks between the meters (modbus) and server (wifi mesh), which then talks to the cloud |
| | * They are open to share IP with the IEEE community; they've invested a lot of $ and don't have too much incentive to provide |
| | * Not open-sourcing, but some sort of license that gives other vendors |
| | * They built their own proprietary hardware (with ESP32 equivalent) that they could sell |
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| Splitting into 2 | b. Discussion recap / feedback session |
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| One for Africa | * Jude: This looks like another locked solution, we would have the risk of being stuck on them |
| | * Arila: Is there any openness from the open-source perspective from SunMoksha? |
| | * Jude: This was developed for India, they had a sponsored project from India. Was a larger for minigrid developers in India previously, but currently isn't such a big market |
| | * Arila: Is there an open solution available on the cloud side? |
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| | * Mou Riiny - interested in OpenAMI, frustrated with Sparkmeter |
| | * Shared a sparkmeter to debug (malfunctional) |
| | * Sparkmeter |
| | * Vivien/Jude might have access to their repos |
| | * What's the goal with this one? |
| | * Just a test bed for now |
| | * Akash to share |
| | * Jude may have functional sparkmeters |
| | * Nova / Edge Meter |
| | * Has some spares |
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| One for rest of world? | c. Akash - will try to make a slide on this |
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| Could expect code stubs for | 2) Jude: Client/customer's wishlist (5-10 mins) a. Jude's thoughts on the current status of the project b. Include pivots of the direction he would like to take this |
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| AMI | 3) Inhemeter call - Jude/Michel/Akash (5 mins) a. Recap of call with Sanji from inhemeter They want a signed document before providing documentation Awaiting on the confidential agreement from Inhemeter <→ Michel F is working on this b. "Cannot support the Inhe-4000 you got from nigeria" Latest model available is the Inhemeter-5000 c. "Please give us your specs for a new order" Donsun - sales person is no longer at Donsun Donsun is now bankrupt (!) Purchased sample meters through StemaCo |
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| Rahul -> older conversations \\ | Rahul - Sparkmeter Sparkmeter has custom radios, not modbus 485 Need to be on their custom neighborhood network Rahul has access to the codebase and developers → can share answers to the queries Dominant architecture in Africa Radios are working on a certain set of frequencies, these are pretty locked Seems very hard to jailbreak existing sparkmeters based on this Recommends avoid committing to jailbreaking this Maybe easier to do if we are already in contact/customers with them |
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| Looking forward: | Arila: Was under the impression that there is Modbus Donsun Splitting into 2 One for Africa One for rest of world? Could expect code stubs for AMI potentially Rahul → older conversations |
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| * | 4) Formal roles within volunteer team - Jude a. Product Manager b. Project Manager c. Administrators d. Other roles? |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>So many meter vendors going bankrupt or not helpful</font> * | |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>How do we salvage existing meters/hardware in the field from these bankruptcies?</font> * | |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Specific to REI-Cameroon,</font> * | |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Jude has Sparkmeter and Stemaco (using Donsun)</font> * | |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Sparkmeter has also moved to stop usage of older hardware</font> * | |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Currently has ~800 sparkmeters</font> * | |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Other hardware is at risk too</font> * | |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Rahul:</font> * | |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Would be great if we can support legacy systems. Some vendors (Sparkmeter for example) are not open to being supported</font> * | |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>While providing this legacy support, we basically create the support/framework for OpenAMI</font> | |
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| Vivien: | 5) Auditing/Changing of project timeline - Akash in place of Don (cannot make it) |
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| * | 6) Techincal debug and setup of REI-Cameroon Lab - Glenn/Endurance/Rahul a. Summarizing status of remote access b. Setup of new hardware / VPN from Glenn |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Sparkmeter has not yet committed to becoming open, but needs help (has a lot of tickets, backlog, etc).</font> | |
| | Looking forward: |
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| | * So many meter vendors going bankrupt or not helpful |
| | * How do we salvage existing meters/hardware in the field from these bankruptcies? |
| | * Specific to REI-Cameroon, |
| | * Jude has Sparkmeter and Stemaco (using Donsun) |
| | * Sparkmeter has also moved to stop usage of older hardware |
| | * Currently has ~800 sparkmeters |
| | * Other hardware is at risk too |
| | * Rahul: |
| | * Would be great if we can support legacy systems. Some vendors (Sparkmeter for example) are not open to being supported |
| | * While providing this legacy support, we basically create the support/framework for OpenAMI |
| | * Vivien: |
| | * Sparkmeter has not yet committed to becoming open, but needs help (has a lot of tickets, backlog, etc). |
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| Sparkmeter | Sparkmeter |
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| * | * Allison is the person we need to convince |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Allison is the person we need to convince</font> * | * Rajan has talked, Vivien has talked to them, Jude has also talked to them, AMDA has also talked to them |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Rajan has talked, Vivien has talked to them, Jude has also talked to them, AMDA has also talked to them</font> * | * M300 has given them $ to stay alive, we have about 3-6 months of funding there |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>M300 has given them $ to stay alive, we have about 3-6 months of funding there</font> | |
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| What do we as OpenAMI focus on in the next 3-6 months? | What do we as OpenAMI focus on in the next 3-6 months? |
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| * | * Rahul: Support on legacy solutions |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Rahul: Support on legacy solutions</font> * | * Jude: Re-formulate the implementation plan |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Jude: Re-formulate the implementation plan</font> * | * Seems like everyone will be legacy soon |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Seems like everyone will be legacy soon</font> | * Go back to drawing board |
| * | * Open-Source Hardware? |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Go back to drawing board</font> * | * Arila: |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Open-Source Hardware?</font> * | * Open-source meter for EnAccess |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Arila:</font> * | * Yes - but not available for use though |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Open-source meter for EnAccess</font> | * For next week: |
| * | * Come with proposals for OpenAMI |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Yes - but not available for use though</font> * | * Akash - hardware gateway prototype |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>For next week:</font> * | * No progress to report |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Come with proposals for OpenAMI</font> * | * Is anyone blocked by this yet? |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Akash - hardware gateway prototype</font> * | * Could be useful for some hardware prototyping |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>No progress to report</font> * | * Glenn's hardware |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Is anyone blocked by this yet?</font> * | * Endurance hasn't been able |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Could be useful for some hardware prototyping</font> * | |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Will sync with Arila on this</font> * | Follow-ups - Rahul weekly meeting? |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Glenn's hardware</font> * | |
| <font 11pt/Calibri;;inherit;;inherit>Endurance hasn't been able to get in yet</font> | |
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| ===== ===== | * Stemaco and Donsun relationship? |
| | * Vivian hardware access? |
| | * Sparkmeter source code access? |
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